Wednesday, August 5, 2009

How Is America Going To End?

The Empire is clearly straining at the seams. The only real question is how it will come apart. It might not be pretty -- there are a lot of parasites in DC and in its garrison outposts who feed off the American people who'd be willing to commit mass murder to hold on to their status (see Lincoln, Abe). So the issue comes down to "Will there be a Soviet revolution or an American revolution?" A must read!

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At August 5, 2009 11:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems like every time someone brings up secession in the (more or less) mainstream outlets, they really like Vermont and feel the need to imply the League of the South are racist throwbacks.

Do Vermont Republic types think the Union winning the civil war was a good thing and that secession is only good for leftists like themsevels? Or do they have to act that way to keep modern secession respectable?

 
At August 5, 2009 11:04 PM , Blogger Nick said...

If you don't mind, Old Rebel, I'd like to make what at first blush may seem like a "minor correction," but in Reality may not be: America is not going to die - the profound historical blunder called (euphemistically) "The U(u)nited States" is going to End.
This time, WE must NOT shoot - not at all. No matter how oppressive, we must resolve to work IN and THROUGH our States to gain our freedom - American Freedom, which was and is predominantly Southron. Jefferson, Mason, Patrick Henry, Calhoun and several score more were and are, to this day, the leading architects and advocates of American Fredom.
Tyranny and despotism are ANTI-HUMAN. They cannot last.

Let our motto be:
"Tyranny & Despotism are 'Nazional' & Global;
Freedom & Democracy are LOCAL."

(I know 'nazional' is simply German for 'national,' but I can't resist the obvious "double entendre" it makes in English.)

 
At August 6, 2009 6:44 AM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Another miniscule plug for Novacadia in the piece! Baby steps are where we're at.

Unfortunately, Josh Levin, the writer of the piece, links Novacadia to Thomas Naylor's Second Vermont Republic site and an article posted there. When this article was originally written, Naylor had stamped this bioregional designation as "New Acadia." Catering to
French-only roots it was, of course, a marketing non-starter.

Naylor re-titled the piece after I came up with the secessionist notion of Novacadia.

It is a moot, editorial point, but does carry a certain degree of philosophical honesty and integrity. After having interviewed me for an hour via phone for the article, Levin gives full-page credence to Naylor, not so much as an asterisk to me nor the Novacadia Alliance. That's okay. It's just the usual American exceptionalism that one has to deal with in our continental culture. How could a state-of-the-art secessionist possibly reside in the boonies of Nova Scotia? No one, especially the American reading public, even knows where that is.

Of more importance is the danger of re-writing history. The small example offered via the above article could be equal in measure to a hypothetical secessionist organization retroactively laying intellectual claim for break-throughs with which they had absolutely nothing to do, in fact, rejected when first offered.

Ah, the Stalinist motives for the re-writing of history may lie deeply buried in all of us. When we turn off the lights at night and stand naked before our Maker, most know what our truths are and what is in place via merit, while some only pretend to know.

 
At August 6, 2009 10:52 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Anonymous,

The Second Vermont folks really have the establishment scratching its head. "They're not Southern -- but they want to secede? What gives?"

Sadly, anything Southern is immediately suspect in the corporate media.

 
At August 6, 2009 10:53 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Nick,

That's a valid distinction. And I agree that working within the system is the only practical means of reclaiming our liberty.

 
At August 6, 2009 10:56 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Sebastian Ronin,

I've had similar experiences with the press. They get frustrated when you come across like the stereotype they're determined to expose, and just ignore what doesn't fit in their preconceived notions.

 
At August 6, 2009 11:09 PM , Blogger Nick said...

Sebastian: I, for one, know all too well where "Nova Scotia" is, and what those words mean: New Scotland. New Scotland is the New World land of my Gaelic cousins from Scotland. I will not only hope but pray for you that you can gain your freedom. If I may, I'd like to finish up by noting that your blog response is more than a little angry and bitter, and your remark about "American exceptionalism," as a 'reason' for why you and your organization were 'left out' of some article, is nothing more than bratty whining with an 'edge.' You'll do yourself a much bigger favor by listening to Mary Jane Lamond, "É Horò" in "Suas E!" or the same no. in her equally beautiful "Làn Dùil.” Regardless, I truly wish you and your people the very best, and success. Nick R., Texas

 
At August 7, 2009 5:25 AM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Nick:

Re "a little angry." Not at all. American exceptionalism is a fact of life; it goes hand-in-hand with the social psyche of Empire, with the mandate of the Monroe Doctrine, with the cultural imperialism of mass media.

I have made the argument before at a conference of secessionists that to be a patriotic secessionist is a type of political schizophrenia. As much as I support and endorse the overall message delivered by Old Rebel, that very symptom now and then pops its head up in this blog. There are blog entries criticizing attacks on the American way of life, time for patriots to stand, etc., etc. only to be countered in other blog entries by a strong Southern secessionist stand. It is not a conundrum for me to work out. It is a conundrum for American secessionists to work out.

The secessionist designation of Novacadia has been, by and large, a blind spot for crafting diplomatic ties with Southern secessionist movements. We share the following historical and cultural ties and heritage:

-Gaelic ethnic roots
-forgotten economic ties, to the point of strong, yet guarded, support of the Confederate cause in Nova Scotia during the 1860-65 war of industrial expansionism
-during the Great Expulsion of the Acadian community from "New Scotland" many settled in Louisiana creating the Cajun population and cultural mix (ethnic cleansing is not a contemporary political phenomenon)
-note that "Novacadia" is a hybrid label recognizing both Scottish and French cultural roots

Bringing historical injustices and cultural ties into political dialogue and debate will not be drivers for socio-political change in our current world. However, having said that, it does no harm to weave the latter into propaganda efforts. The future of an energy-depleted world can be fused with past injustices and cultural ties in such way that the hybrid argument points to the present...and it is only in the present where political conduct can occur.

As a baby step towards this journey, one of the planks I have entered into my platform for the leadership of the Nova Scotia Green Party is that Gaelic be taught in the public school system as a second language. For anyone who wishes more info on that one, please feel free to visit:

NSGP Leadership Bid

 
At August 7, 2009 9:29 AM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Sebastian Ronin,

Of course there's a profound difference between knowing and living one's heritage and the "American exceptionalism" of Jonah Goldberg. Goldberg and his sofa samurai tout the notion that the DC empire has a divine mandate to bludgeon and bomb the rest of the world for its own good.

To me, that impulse to make the world go round is a sickness, a failure of knowing who you are, to the point that you become obsessed with everyone else's lives.

That's an important distinction.

 
At August 7, 2009 9:56 AM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Old Rebel, re "...that impulse to make the world go round is a sickness."

You get no argument from me. But from where does it stem? If the analogy of a "sickness" is to be recognized, then is it not better to concentrate on the disease as opposed to the symptoms?

And here again I maintain that the "disease" is rooted deeply, going back to Monroe Doctrine. One of the "symptoms", i.e. neuroses, could be seen to be the "political schizophrenia" I refer to that seems to "afflict" so many American secessionists.

I repeat: one can either be a nationalist/American patriot or a regionalist/Southern patriot (in your case). It is an impossibility to be both. One cannot serve two masters.

Or am I missing something here?

 
At August 7, 2009 2:13 PM , Blogger Harold Thomas said...

"One can either be a nationalist/American patriot or a regionalist/Southern patriot (in your case). It is an impossibility to be both. One cannot serve two masters."

Absolutely true, but a truth many in the movement are not yet ready to hear.

Keep in mind that the first step in the grief process is denial.

 
At August 7, 2009 3:18 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Sebastian Ronin,

"If the analogy of a "sickness" is to be recognized, then is it not better to concentrate on the disease as opposed to the symptoms?"

Couldn't agree more. And I think we all agree that size is itself the disease -- "giganticism" corrupts minds and morals. The megastate, with its concentration of power and treasure, will attract the power-hungry and ruin the well-meaning.

I forgot who said it, but one way to put it is "Hitler on a city council would be a nuisance, but a disaster in the chancellory."

 
At August 7, 2009 4:16 PM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Old Rebel, re "giantism" I take it that you have read Leopold Kohr's The Breakdown of Nations. For your readers who may not have, his argument is very simple: all countries/societies carry an inherent, critical-mass population size that, once surpassed they can not help but go fascist. Not a bad obervation for 1957.

 
At August 8, 2009 1:30 PM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Harold, re "Keep in mind that the first step in the grief process is denial."

What a great and simple observation! Kubler-Ross gets incorporated into the NAmerican secessionist movement. Too much!

 
At August 8, 2009 2:08 PM , Blogger Old Rebel said...

Sebastian,

I haven't read that particular work, but have heard it referenced in conversations like ours. There's also Small is Beautiful, a classic. I think the strains we're suffering today come from the deteriorating conditions in a system too big to function properly.

 
At August 8, 2009 5:48 PM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

Harold, re "Absolutely true, but a truth many in the movement are not yet ready to hear."

Allow me to expand on the point you make. At the close of last year’s Third North American Secessionist Convention, the standard “Declaration” was trotted out for approval. That none of the convention delegates had anything to do with its drafting is an irksome and moot non-democratic aside.

Before one could whisper the word “secession” there erupted the most ridiculous of pissing contests between Americans and Canadians over some of the “Declaration’s” wording. It leaned too strongly towards political things American, opposed the Canadians, especially within a political context of “North American Secessionist Convention. Blah blah blah. You catch my drift, yes?

The point here is that not one delegate stood to make the argument as a Southron, a Vermonter, a Cascadian or whatever. And don’t forget, this was all happening a supposed secessionists’ convention. We have light years to travel within the span of several Gaia years as the condition ripens. What a lovely political challenge.

BTW, during the above-mentioned soap opera the delegate from Novacadia stood aside and quietly chortled beneath his breath.

Old Rebel, Schumacher studied Kohr, referred to his writing on scale as having been done "brilliantly and convincingly."

 
At August 9, 2009 9:05 AM , Blogger Sebastian Ronin said...

The Breakdown of Nations

Hey, at fifteen bucks it's a steal.

 

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