Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Our choices for 2008

... can be summed up as "Damned if you do, and damned if you don't."

Consider Obama. Here's a smooth-talking politician who barely conceals his contempt for the majority in this country. His close association with his "mentor" Reverend Wright will provide plenty of ammunition for the Republican smear machine (a formidable weapon). The race hustlers will insist that any attack on Obama, or even failure to support him, HAS to be due to racial hatred, which will further confound those who are concerned with issues, and not race:

Pollsters have found it difficult to accurately measure racial attitudes, as some voters are unwilling to acknowledge the role that race plays in their thinking. But some are not. Susan Dzimian, a Clinton supporter who owns residential properties, said outside a polling location in Kokomo that race was a factor in how she viewed Obama. "I think if it was somebody other than him, I'd accept it," she said of a black candidate. "If Colin Powell had run, I would be willing to accept him."

And Obama's left-wing policies will most assuredly repulse most Americans...

...except for his stance on Iraq and the economy, that is. Obama is perceived as the anti-war candidate (which he is certainly not), and as the economy continues to tank, due in large part to the strain of borrowing billions to finance the democratization of the Middle East, anyone who isn't associated with the Republicans will look good.

Then there's Mad John McCain. This hotheaded, foul-mouthed globalist will continue the Bush regime's policy of "Invite the world, invade the world" that has not only weakened this country's security at home and abroad, but poisoned its reputation. Bet your bottom dollar (which shrinks in value every day) that McCain will find a way to grant amnesty to his new amigos from south of the border. Bet on it.

Add to this volatile stew an increasingly rebellious electorate that overwhelmingly feels "the country's seriously off on the wrong track."

So who knows what will happen? When the media-savvy insurgency in Iraq turns up the heat to influence the election, will Obama's fortunes rise? What happens when there's another terrorist attack on US soil? Will that help or hurt McCain?

Who knows? All we can be sure of is that things are getting stickier every day, and there's no sign things are going to get any clearer. We're in a political pea soup without a GPS. Talk about interesting times ...

21 Comments:

At May 13, 2008 9:50 PM , Anonymous Brad C said...

It's pretty grim. It's always a choice between the lesser of two evils. But for reasons you've given, I don't think there is a lesser of two evils among the major parties. I am voting for Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party knowing full well he doesn't have a chance of winning.

Aside from that, all you can do is try to win battles at the local level. Since secession isn't going to happen anytime soon, these are the only strategies I can see for the short term.

 
At May 13, 2008 10:10 PM , Blogger Dixie Forever said...

Chuck B. is the only choice for me..... Deo Vindice

 
At May 13, 2008 11:19 PM , Anonymous Bison said...

I will be voting for Chuck Baldwin as well.

 
At May 14, 2008 1:27 AM , Anonymous Wes Franklin said...

I was a delegate at the convention where Baldwin was nominated.
His speeches were stirring, to say the least. I was on my feet more than a few times.
His campaign website is www.baldwinbrigade.com

 
At May 14, 2008 8:30 AM , Blogger Michael Tuggle said...

brad c,

You wrote: "... all you can do is try to win battles at the local level."

True, and that's a good thing. The powers that be can't be everywhere at once, and with small groupls of us making a difference locally, we'll eventually build up momentum for bigger and bigger projects.

 
At May 14, 2008 10:04 AM , Blogger Pinky said...

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ha ha ha.
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Interesting explanations that appear to be a refusal to accept reality for what it is.
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We live in the twenty-first century when there are some pretty well developed understandings about the way things are including the racial issues that led American society down hill for so long. It is now the once and for all time to "chuck" such thinking and to put it where the sun doesn't shine.
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I see civilization as something that has direction that ~ because of where we find ourselves now ~ needs a change.
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Obama might not be the perfect answer; but, the perfect answer isn't out there. Yet, he does represent change like we have not seen.
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I'm not so sure I'm happy with everything that will come to pass once he is in office; but, I will vote for him. Mostly for the simple reason that he will bring the kind of change that will put us in a better position to deal with Constitutional issues. The coup 'd tat of the Bush Administration has shown us how easy it is for our society to be hi-jacked.
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BTW, didn't I read someplace that Obama has some expertise in Constitutional law?

 
At May 14, 2008 4:34 PM , Blogger Michael Tuggle said...

pinky,

I'll probably vote for him, too, but for entirely different motives.

There's more Jeremiah Wright in his head than people want to believe. And it's pretty obvious he's a leftie.

So I see an Obama regime as a bucket of cold water in the faces of comatose conservatives. They need a wake-up call, and I think the Great O will provide it.

McCain, on the other hand, will get away with imposing his globalist agenda in the name of "conservatism." That's how Bush has gotten away with his crimes for so long. Now that folks are seeing the results of No Child Left Behind, Open Borders, and pre-emptive wars, his approval numbers are at Nixonian levels.

So there's hope that Southerners haven't been persuaded, just fooled.

 
At May 14, 2008 5:52 PM , Anonymous Bison said...

I'm surprised people who would claim the constitution as their guide would openly proclaim their vote for a socialist. Either in the Democrat party or the Republican party.

I'm sure the two big parties are happy to hear that. It means the two headed monster once again gets a free pass to bleed America for all its worth.

 
At May 14, 2008 6:05 PM , Blogger Pinky said...

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At May 14, 2008 6:08 PM , Blogger Pinky said...

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Here's the problem as I see it regarding the Jeremiah Wright issue.
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Blacks see Christianity much differently than do whites, especially Fundamentalist Christians.
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Whereas the tradition among blacks is that their hope is in being set free, the tradition among Fundamentalists is biblical literalism that leans toward Old Testament law--Liberalism vs. Legalism.
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So, we CAN understand the Jeremiah Wright situation in a way that relates to biblical teachings. And, we can appreciate the difference in our back grounds.
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I am no more ashamed of my ancestry than anyone else. I understand the problems that existed in the past. A couple of years ago, I found some history of my ancestral past and read the Last Will and Testament of my direct ancestor, James Rumsey, who left his "his Negro man Jim" to his oldest son. In no way does that say anything about me and my beliefs; but, it helps me understand my roots.
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Just to let you know a little more about myself.
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BTW, when using the word, Constitution, in reference to the founding document of our society, it should always be capitalized.

 
At May 15, 2008 8:48 AM , Anonymous Bison said...

Due to my inadvertent mistake in not capitalizing the word Constitution, I will now donate an additional ten dollars to the Chuck Baldwin campaign during the Memorial Day Money Bomb.
http://www.freedommoneybomb.com

Peace.

 
At May 15, 2008 4:37 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

bison,

dont you think voting for any conservative other than John McCain is a vote for Obama?

 
At May 15, 2008 7:41 PM , Blogger Pinky said...

Hey, Bison!!
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You have a good sense of humor.
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At May 15, 2008 11:48 PM , Anonymous Bison said...

To Anonymous

John McCain is not a conservative.

The fact is if I cast a vote for Chuck Baldwin it counts as a vote for Chuck Baldwin. My conscience will not let me vote for either of the other two.

Martin Luther famously said "to go against conscience is neither right nor safe"

I'm with Luther, and I am voting for Chuck Baldwin.

 
At May 16, 2008 10:18 AM , Blogger Pinky said...

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But, Bison, how does your conscience deal with the fact that by voting for Baldwin actually helps elect one of the persons against whom Baldwin stands?
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Don't get me wrong. I have been in that box myself; so, I understand your point of view. But, when push comes to shove (and it has come to that now) we are forced to move in a direction toward our goals and objectives rather than to plow into brick walls.
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At May 16, 2008 12:01 PM , Anonymous Bison said...

Pinky,

You are presuming that one candidate is worse or less evil than the other. Choosing between globalist/socialist candidate A and B is a false choice. No matter who gets elected the agenda stays the same. The American people don't win.

If you cast a vote for Chuck Baldwin, even if he does not win you at the very least help the Constitution Party retain ballot access. So next election instead of spending all their time and money getting on the ballot, they can run a more effective campaign.

None of this will happen overnight. Its a process that the two party dictatorship has made intentionally difficult.

I have 3 young children and I pray that by the time they are old enough to vote that the Constitution Party will have many people in office.

But I will say this, If you can't bring your self to pull the lever for the CP candidate in the big election, then please consider voting for them in the statewide races. Thats where they will make the most difference.

Remember it was the voting in of Republicans and Democrats that got us where we are today. Voting for either one of them will just result in more of the same.

Are we not tired of more of the same yet?

 
At May 16, 2008 1:13 PM , Blogger Harold Thomas said...

My question is, is it appropriate for a secessionist to vote for any Presidential candidate? We can vote for Congress and Senate on the grounds that we are voting for (supposedly) the representatives of our States' interests. But a vote for President would seem to be an affirmation of the unity of the United States!

 
At May 16, 2008 7:58 PM , Blogger Pinky said...

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The idea of urban myths might play well when it comes to how third parties work in our national elections.
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There is a concept in political circles under the rubric of, Saints, Sinners, and Save-ables.
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The Saints are the ones that vote your party no matter what. And, the sinners are the ones that will never vote your party no matter what.
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The Save-ables are, of course, the ones who can be won over.
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Third parties are effective tools to draw the balance to the right or to the left. A super conservative third party might not win any worthwhile portion of the vote; but, it might pull the electorate to the right. So, the Republican Party would want to see super conservative third parties to pull the Save-ables to the right.
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The opposite is true of the Democrats.
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The best way to vote is for the party that will be most receptive to your desires and that is the party that wants to move into the positions of power. In this case, the Democratic Party.
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Obama presents us with the rare opportunity for a big change in America's politics. Maybe you don't like what he might bring; but, he will destabelise the political make up of American politics like none other.
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Once our political system is thrown off balance, parties like the Constitutional Party will move forward in the public view.
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People who want to see long time change in the U.S.A. would do no better than to vote for Obama.
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The general direction needs to be changed. Politics is never about today--it's about tomorrow. We don't need any more Supreme Court justices like Scalia that believe in the infallibility of the Pope.
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Do you realize that we have five Catholic justices on the Supreme Court?
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There are more things at stake than our ideologies.
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Gentlemen.

 
At May 16, 2008 9:25 PM , Blogger Michael Tuggle said...

harold thomas,

Here's the best argument against my position that I've seen:

"I support Ron Paul for a different reason than most. First, he is an honorable man and in my lifetime there has been very few of those running for federal office.

Secondly, to buy some time. If Paul could by a miracle get elected I think the tyranny would slow down a little allowing us time to organize, without being labeled "domestic terroists", a secession movement.

Third, He is an admitted "States Rights" man. This is my opinion, but, I don't think he would do what Lincoln did to stop a state or states from exercising their right to secession..

Just my penny's worth.

Ed Wolfe"

 
At May 17, 2008 6:36 PM , Blogger eds777 said...

I was forced to leave the Republican Party approximately 3 years ago, when Pres. G.W. Bush's globalist policies got way out of hand.

Via a search at that point, I found the Constitution Party, and have been an active advocate ever since. Because of this, I support Chuck Baldwin, who has the most sane platform of all of the candidates.

What people don't realize about Ron Paul, as nice as he is and a clear thinker, is that he is still a Republican! Look at the mess in our government today, sporting a $9 Trillion budget deficit, thanks to the Republicans, most of whom support the private federal reserve system (doesn't deserve capital letters). When Ron Paul renounces the Republican Party, I will reconsider him, depending on where he winds up.

In the meanwhile, Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party is my choice!

 
At June 27, 2008 10:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am also voting for Chuck Baldwin

 

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